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May. 11th, 2008 | 11:38 pm

Buddy of mine just opened a cafe. The focus is on chocolates, but they have the usual coffee, crepes, cakes, etc.

So DSL+wifi went in yesterday. Now the question:

How to make the geeky road warriors happy, while not totally losing money on leeches who buy a $3 cup of coffee and camp out all day occupying valuable table space?

At Coupa Cafe in Palo Alto, they take down the WiFi on weekends.

How do other people do it?

I suggested that he might offer an $18.88 bottomless cup of coffee plus any one food item; laptop people would be encouraged to order that, with the understanding that they're really paying rent.

Or, when every table is filled, and there's a line waiting, waiters could deliver pointed hints.

Suggestions?

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Jesse

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from: [info]obra
date: May. 11th, 2008 04:25 pm (UTC)
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I've seen cafes which just turn off the outlets during the day. I've seen places with captive portals. I've seen nasty cards left at every table.

What I have never seen, but which I imagine would work "better" is table-service. Every half-hour, the waitstaff show up and ask you what they can get you. It's more likely to lead to revenue or a sense of discomfort without being obnoxious

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Mark Fowler

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from: [info]2shortplanks
date: May. 12th, 2008 11:48 am (UTC)
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This, of course, is genius.

Half the problem when you're "camped out" is that it's HARD to get up and get another coffee no matter how much you want one. Do you stand up and risk losing your table? Do you leave your laptop there? I don't like either of these options.

If you're smart, you'll also add an intranet page that lets you order coffee (or, at least, summon wait staff)

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Time limit

from: [info]rikkus.info
date: May. 11th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
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How about:

1. Customer makes purchase.
2. Customer sees sign which says '1hr wifi with each purchase over £x. Ask for password.'
3. Customer asks for password.
4. Randomly generated password written on scrap of paper and given to customer.
5. Customer logs in for up to an hour.

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Shevek

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from: [info]shevek
date: May. 11th, 2008 08:57 pm (UTC)
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I've eaten in cafes which do this. It pretty much works.

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Greg Connor

Re: Time limit

from: [info]gconnor
date: May. 12th, 2008 05:26 am (UTC)
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hey what about hacking the register so that the new password appears on every receipt? They could of course ask for a free re-up, but they might just buy something so as not to have to ask.

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Greg Connor

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from: [info]gconnor
date: May. 11th, 2008 06:19 pm (UTC)
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How about marking certain tables as "Please, no computer use at this table" (esp. high traffic areas).

Another idea might be to actually charge $$ for the wifi, or only charge $$ if the usage is over 2 hrs?

hmm, tough problem anyway.

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Player hatter

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from: [info]flipzagging
date: May. 11th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
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My favorite cafe in the Valley, Barefoot Coffee Roasters, is packed almost all the time and they never limit the wi-fi. They have a mixed crowd of tech workers, artists, and students. You might want to ask them how they are doing it.

This cafe has an extraordinary sense of community, so maybe that's part of it. Not sure if that's replicable in every business.

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Psychology is my Boyfriend

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from: [info]radiantsun
date: May. 12th, 2008 09:30 pm (UTC)
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Are they in the bay area? I want to drink coffee, eat chocolate and surf on the internet there while being sure to not take up too much time . . ..

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gugod

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from: [info]gugod
date: May. 26th, 2008 05:24 am (UTC)
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I liked this approach but it might be a little bit hard for clerks to track all tables.

If the cafe is serving good coffee, I think one *reasonable* approach is to provide a rather slow bandwidth. This way people will not be staying there for long, but will still be there for good coffee.

Customers searching for good internet connection but not good coffee will end up not going much, but that should a good thing. IMHO.

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